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Aug 25, 2011
 Thanks
by: Peter T

Thanks for your input, Peter. I haven't paid anything for it. I wanted to know a bit about what I was looking at before I attempted to buy it. I like it and may still put a bid on it, but your advice has, at the very least, prevented me from getting carried away on the price.

Many thanks,

Peter T
Aug 25, 2011
 yellow vase
by: peter

Sorry, but it remains the same. Probably a fake, after all. I cannot see more for or against this on this photograph.

Hope you did not pay too much for it.
Aug 24, 2011
 mark
by: Peter T

Thank you, Peter. Point taken. I would add a photo of the vase, but I cannot figure out how to insert a photo into a reply. Is it possible to do so, or is it necessary to create a new thread?


Yes, make a new submission. The two threads can then be merged.

peter
Aug 24, 2011
 mark
by: peter

Hi again,
I want to make two points.

1. As stated elsewhere, you cannot decide age or authenticity with a mark alone, when it comes to Chinese porcelain. In fact, we look at the mark last. I got the feeling that you want to decide it using a theory, but we use experience. The foot, shape, color, decoration, etc. all conbribute to the result. The mark is the least important.

2. Yes, many marks have been imitated on later porcelain, but this is the first time I see one like this. This is not the usual type that appears on later copies.
It looks more as if it could be new or fake, and they did not know enough about the marks used in certain periods. The chance that this is new or fake is greater than that it is Guangxu or republican period, I'm afraid. Mostly, when they used earlier mark in the Guangxu period they would use certain mark styles, not this type of a mix.

I would upload some more pictures of the item itself. That may provide some additional hints.
Aug 24, 2011
 Markings
by: Peter T

Hi Peter, Thanks for your reply. After reading through some of the articles you have written and posted on this site, I now see that it is a Qianlong mark. I'm thinking that the vase is at least late Guangxu, if not early Republic, with Qianlong markings, which you elsewhere wrote was not an unusual practice for the time period. I know that you wrote that it is impossible to know the age, but does that line of reasoning sound somewhat reasonable?

Thanks,

Peter T
Aug 23, 2011
 mark
by: peter

Hi, whether this is from the Guangxu period is impossible to tell from the mark alone. But, the mark itself is a Qianlong mark written in a style that makes it unlikely to be of the period. Qianlong period marks usually would use Zhuanti characters and no double ring, especially with impressed or incised marks.
The style of this mark would be perfectly normal if it would be a Kangxi or Yongzheng mark (with the respective reign name, of course).

https://www.chinese-antique-porcelain.com/antique-china-marks.html

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