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mark on 20th century porcelain

by Rudy
(Holland)

very interested to learn the meaning of this 20th century seal.

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Aug 22, 2012
 Ginger Jar
by: Noel

Hi I have a Ginger Jar very colorfull,hand painted,with enamel and painted marking that looks like number 31.It's very pretty,I know is chinese but the painted scene have two nepal snow lions and that's is what got me confused.Do you have any idea?
Oct 20, 2011
 sorry
by: Rudy

I am sorry.

thank you for your interest.
Oct 20, 2011
 Is this plate still in you possesion?
by: boj

Hi ,
Is this plate still in you possesion?
Do you have any pictures?
Mar 11, 2011
 Mark
by: Rudy

Hay Peter,

the plate is 20th. century, made by Deng Bishan who was strongly influenced by the Japanese style of painting.

thanks a lot for your kind attention
with best regards

Rudy

P.S. if you are interested I can sent you images of this saucer plate (in this case let me have your E-mail address)
Mar 10, 2011
 20th century seal
by: Anonymous

Thanks Peter
the plate is Chinese and it could be Qing indeed.
A mark from around the same year Reads:
Qingchuang dusha lou (The Clear Window Study).


Rudy,
Please don't fall into the trap of taking all at its surface value. Investigate all factors. You can't judge an item on a mark alone.
The right character is very rare in Chinese names. But it is VERY frequent in Japanese family names and place names. Further, two character marks/seals are the norm in Japan, but unusual in Chinese.
This is valid for ancient ones as well as current ones.
Please upload clear pictures of the item if you want to make sure.

But, with this bottom I am fairly confident that it is 20th century, way after the Qing dynasty, and that the foot rim was darkened to make it look old.
Further, if the colors in the pictures are accurate, and it was made in China, then it MUST be 20th century. A snow white ground color was simply impossible before chemical dyes came into use (and that was in the 20th century). I don't know when Japan started using such colors, though.
Apr 14, 2010
 mark
by: peter

The mark contains two characters, the right one being read Qing in Chinese or Ao in Japanese, but we cannot identify the second one on the left.
My guess is that it is a Japanese mark as the legible character is seldom used in Chinese marks, but is frequently a part in Japanese names (surnames and placenames). Is it Japanese porcelain?

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