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Nov 26, 2011
 Large red black plate from David M. Brian
by: Mei

Hi, about 10 years ago, I bought my mother-in-law a beautiful reproduction of a large Chinese plate. It had hieroglypics in black on a red plate. She recently broke it and it broke her heart. I have no idea where to find something like that. David M. Brian no longer has it. Can anyone help?
Jun 23, 2010
 nice millefleur plate
by: dennis

hello,

thats a nice millefleur plate, i also have a millefleur vase. go to asianart.com- chinese vase- posted by dennis, u can also see my collection there. as regarding in the amount of value, i did not buy any of my arts. but no matter the value of the items i have, it just a drop in the bucket, some say. the man had money that could last a thousand flowers years, if u know what i mean.
Jun 12, 2010
 Millefiori plate with dragons -- gorgeous!
by: peter

Hi again,

Thanks for uploading more pictures. I was actually afraid it could be printed, but this one looks good!

Without looking at the mark I would say late Qing, probably Guangxu reign.
The mark says Qianlong reign. But, while the Millefiori pattern did exist already in the Qianlong reign, it was more frequent from the end of Qing to early republican periods. The red dragons were also more frequently used in porcelain of the Guangxu period.
If it were Qianlong period, then a dragon with five claws would have to be imperial ware, and the value of Qianlong imperial ware would be extremely high. In the Guangxu reign the rule that only imperial dragons could have five claws was not enforced anymore, as far as I know.

I recommend to have an online valuer or appraiser look at it. They have more experience and I guess it is well worth this minor expense. I don't think I saw a millefiori plate with three dragons and a backside decoration before.

No matter which period it is, a gorgeous plate!


Jun 12, 2010
 millefiori plate with dragons
by: peter

Hello JR,

This plate looks much better than the other one. Is it hand-painted?
I wonder if you could upload high resolution pictures of top and bottom, as well as the foot rim and mark somewhere on the web and post the link here? Unfortunately, this server doesn't seem to allow sufficiently large pictures as required with this item.
The pictures should be done under a light that allows viewing minute details in the glaze.

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