Dave, Usually, these antique temple jars are attributed to the late Qing dynasty (1644-1911). That is, most likely made during the Guangxu dynasty. That covers a period of about three decades. Mostly it is difficult to fix a narrower time frame as they could have been made anytime during that period.
Nov 30, 2010
Thank you by: Dave
Peter
Thank you so much for all of your help/ As I said it is so interesting to see all of the collections. If I may ask, if you had to guess from just what you see could you give me a closer idea as to when in the Dynasty they may come from. This is only for my own use and not to be held to anything other then a guess. I found a nice place to display them in my office and I think they will stay where thay are for awhile.
Again Thank you: Dave
Nov 28, 2010
temple jars by: peter
Dave, No the pictures are fine. The result is still the same, the pictures show that none is a newer copy. As I said this type of porcelain is rather easy to recognize. The jars were likely made end of Qing dynasty, the mark on one is a spurious Ming mark. That is all. Let me know if there is anything more I can help.
Peter
Nov 28, 2010
Great by: Dave
Peter Now that I think I am on to this photo stuff, do you need any other photo's to help ID them?
Nov 27, 2010
temple jar pictures by: peter
Hi Dave, Yes, the pictures are better now and showing more detail.
Peter
Nov 27, 2010
More Photo's by: Dave
Peter
I did use the sunlight and tried to get some better closeup's of both Jars.
I reposted them on my site with the 1st jar, what I think is the newer one. It looks more stenciled and vibrant.
The 2nd just looks older and more like it would have been produced by and artist.
I purchased them together, the are both almost the same size. The first has a 9" base, 15" high and 5" top. 2nd same except 8" base.
The inside just under the flair of the neck is .29" on the 1st and .38" at the same spot on the 2nd. this would where the top and sides come together.
Please look at them at www.deejayscentral.com and click on the photo's to enlarge them. I could d blow them way up and stil have a clear look when I copied them from the site and used a viewing program, so I hope you are able to see them better.
Thanks Dave
Nov 21, 2010
Where to go from here? by: Dave
Peter
Do you have any ideas on where or how to really get some good info on the Jars. I have read all of the info on your site and it looks like using E Bay for any type of info would be a waste since so much is not what it seems.
And since the marks are of no help. and so many have faked age as I read, I would not want to sell them as real, or sell real ones as " who knows what they are" !
I am just not sure the best way to go with them, I am not a collector, just happend upon them. If they are true Art Works, even old reproductions, then someone would enjoy having them. If not they still need a good home.
Thanks Dave
Nov 20, 2010
New Photo by: Dave
Peter
I am updating my company web site, so I added a page with some photo's on it marked Ginger Jar and Jar 2. Please let me know if this gives you any better views, or how I could improve them so you might be able to better ID them. If this seems like a workable view I will photos of the other jar.
www.deejayscentral.com
Thank you for all of your info Dave
Dave, these are the best pictures. Age clearly visible.
Peter
Nov 08, 2010
Addition by: Dave
I have added a 2nd post with more photo's listed under Ginger Jar 2
Thank you Dave
Nov 04, 2010
ginger jars by: peter
Hello, It would be of advantage if you could upload pictures of the whole jar(s) as well as bottom(s) instead of a bottom with mark only. Marks can be fake, but sometimes even a spurious mark can provide an indication of its real age. With Chinese porcelain the marks cannot be relied on for deciding age because often earlier period marks were added to later period porcelain. The mark on this one isn't likely in antique 20th century items (but it is not impossible either), thus it would be necessary to view the whole item to get a better idea of the item.
Also, please provide a picture of the lid. Redwood is very unlikely; if it was made in China it should be a hardwood lid. Wooden lids are replacement lids as are brass or metal lids. Lids are frequently missing because they are easily dropped and broken.