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Famille verte bowl

by Barry
(UK)

Hi Peter can you suggest a period for this famille verte bowl please.

Many thanks Barry

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by: Snap

Peter is quite right to say that spiral marking may appear on Japanese ceramics. However, this is a result of how the item was removed from a potter's wheel, and should be flush with the bottom of the piece. I have seen some examples of the spiral or 'chatter marks' being added by a producer for no reason related to being removed from a surface during making, nor related to finishing a piece, meant to suggest being quite old.

The strange mask in the center of the bowl is a combination of two completely different eras' styles, each reminiscent of but not the same as what they simulate.

The scenery was painted by one who was not familiar with traditional Chinese veranda/garden scenes, as if copied from an illustration half-remembered (or extremely small in size).

It looks like dirt was added to the piece. It should easily wash off.

These elements point to a quite recent product meant to be a sort of imitation, but with many conflicting impulses. Possibly made in Indonesia.
Help please
by: Barry

Hi Peter still trying to research this bowl, could it be from the transitional period. It is heavily potted, the footrim, base and colours look to be right for the transition to Kangxi. I really would like someones input to give me some clue.

Many thanks Barry
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by: peter

This bowl is trying to look like a Kangxi decoration. However, I have doubts that this is older than the 20th century, if it is Chinese. Could even be modern.
The color combination looks like Kangxi, but the painting style doesn't look as sophisticated, and the lines give it a stiff appearance.

The spiral bottom is something I have never seen in antique Chinese porcelain. Similar bottoms appear in Japanese porcelain, however. If this is Japanese, it might have some age, but if it is Chinese, it would have to be modern, I'm afraid.
Please ask for a second opinion.

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