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Mar 01, 2012
 porcelain painting
by: peter

Hi Margarida,
I haven't even seen the whole porcelain painting, so it is difficult to comment on it.

I just advise to be careful from whom you buy...
The person telling you this has Ming seals does either understand no Chinese at all, or he/she was scamming you. Which of these two I do not know, but unfortunately there is no other possibility.
Both the rectangular and square seals clearly have Qianlong (Qing dynasty) marks; the small one could be a personal seal of the artist with the surname "Ma" (meaning "horse", a common Chinese name), but not sure. The personal name is "Xiaoqin".
In my view they are not "imperial" marks. I'm sorry, but in many instances the back side of porcelain 'panels' may not be helpful in deciding age.

Have you seen the picture before restoration?
My opinion is that this porcelain painting cannot be from the Ming dynasty, both due to painting style and colors used.
The painting style resembles a modern Chinese painting style more than anything I have seen from the Qing or Ming dynasties. Antique paintings are usually elaborately painted with very fine strokes. I don't know if such a painting on porcelain would have been possible even as early as the late Qing dynasty.
Have you tried finding out about this type of painting?
Mar 01, 2012
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by: Margarida Dias

By the way, I forgot one important detail. Before the painting restauration, the porcelain had a very advanced aging signs and degradation (large concavities and black points). But it was all restored. It was only restored due to his degradation state. It was told to have imperial Ming Dynasty Seal Marks (red). As for the decoration, of course it´s unusual, cause English said they invented themselves the Horse Polo (The 4-4 game like painted on this porcelain). I don´t understand anything about Imperial Ming Kilns but could the restauration dammage some crucial details? Probably the only way of seeing the untouched porcelain is by taking the frame and seeing the back porcelain.
Thank you in advance Peter.

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